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Tuesday, August 10, 2021
RESEARCH & REPLICATION
Enemy of The World -The original faces the replica but which is which & who is who? |
As stated in one of my previous posts, a primary reason for creating this blog of useless Timelord trivia, was to correct, uncover, re- examine and uncover missing or lost costume and prop information connected to all things linked to The 2nd Doctor.
As we sadly know, so much is missing from this delightful era, either in junked episodes, production notes or actors anecdotes. So, as the 2nd Doctor is my Doctor, I decided to do my bit to fill in any of the gaps where I could. Hence creating this blog as a reference point to come to for all those interested in the Patrick Troughton era.
Though I've only been up and running for a few years now, I'm pleased to see that over five thousand hits have been made to this blog over its various posts and thanks to my Instagram account @thezero_room, I know that my research is being enjoyed by the Doctor Who fans of the classic series. It is gratifying to know that my research on The 2nd Doctor's costume has become useful as a reference in fan art and my information on the Sonic Screwdrivers has been shared and indirectly helped out on numerious prop builds, including the popular The War Games Sonic Screwdriver. However, I'm happy to say its not just the fans work that this blog has aided, but also the BBC themselves! Last year I spotted that the animation trailer, and now of course episode 3, of The Web Of Fear has also used my blog as a reference point for the Doctor's costume. If you look closely, the animation team have faithfully and painstakingly replicating the correct pattern for The Doctor's handkerchief. (see the comparason pictures below) Sadly I think my post on the correct bow-ties for each story wasn't up when the animation team started working on the missing episode!
The animated hankie against one of my hankies. Note the pattern detail. |
So, this is how it should be, sharing research to help others in their projects to restore the accuracy of items long gone or forgotten. This is why this blog is here and I'm glad its being used as I intended. That said, the only cause for dismay I have over the use of this blog and its information, is the lack of acknowledgement or communication when these things are being created. With over thousands of hits to the blog, I have had only one post saying that they have found my work useful. No one has contacted me privately to say what is happening in the pipeline. Quite often I am the last to find out that the information has been used as reference point, as its other people with no connection to a particular project who point them out to me. Its quite sad really as I'm always happy to help in anyway I can with references and extra information. I am also interested to hear on the projects being worked on and how my blog has been discovered by those wanting to use the research. By all means use the info, reference the pictures etc. but come on guys... be a little gracious in the future when working on projects, I'm very discreet.
Scenes from The Web of Fear DVD animation. Note the detail on The Doctors Hankie |
DER FEIND DER WELT.
Talking of projects, I'm pleased to finally announce, after keeping it under wraps for a few months now (see I told you I was discreet), that my research has helped when producing a release of official merchandise. At the start of 2021 I was contacted in a roundabout way by Polyband Media, the German distributor of Doctor Who DVD's. Polyband had decided to release a beautiful deluxe media pack edition of The Enemy of The World (The Feind Der Welt). This package was to include several items to accompany the DVD including a replica of the 2nd Doctors hankie. However, with only minimal sections of the actual design of the hankie on show on my blog for their reference, they drew up their own design for the handkerchief. It was a good attempt with the info they had, but very much off the mark. Though I was not aware I had been contacted initially on their plans it was all very hush, hush) a few of my followers flagged it up for me when they saw the advert (see below) and after I contacted Polyband we finally got together to produce a closer version of the actual hankie. I am due to receive my copy in the post very soon and when I do I shall post up a review either here or via my Instagram account. For those interested, there is a very limited run of 333 of this Polyband Media book, which has been on sale from 30th July 2021.
The Polyband Enemy Of The World Media book & extras, including a closeup section of the replica 2nd Doctor Handkerchief. |
Wednesday, October 14, 2020
The Dominators Sonic Screwdriver - Design update!
Since posting the last blog I have received quite a few favorable and positive comments on the design, via email and my twitter account (though I am happy for people to post here, come on, where are you? Dont be shy) and would like to take time here to thank friends and followers on sharing their thoughts on the Dominators Sonic Screwdriver... They are; Matthew Toffolo, Adam Sterczala (Straker), Si Hodges, Dan Fielding, Ash Stanton, Max King & Micheal Croft (Mycroft).
One comment in particular that was mentioned by several of the above, was the size (and in this case it does matter!) of the handle. The suggestion was that in our version it is possibly too long in comparison to the rest of the attachment and what was seen on screen when in Troughton's hand. All quite right and this was something that James and I had discussed and considered. It was good to receive the constructive feed-back, and looking at the screen grabs again and using my hands as a template, we have taken some of the length off and reset it to try and match what is it is that we, and the others, are seeing. So, here is the new tweak...
As you can now see the handle is shorter in to our earlier prototype whilst still keeping with the theme of the toy space guns and other weapons made for the Dulkis Museum in the story, as shown in my last post. Though shorter we have retained the slight slant of the handle. Below is a comparison photo highlighting the change.
Our designs - Mark 1 (top) & Mark 2 below |
As I said in my last blog we were happy with the design and would have tweaked, so that was always on the cards, we just didn't expect to do so so soon, but both of us were keen to strike as soon as possible. With the tweak you can see we have lost nothing from the overall design based on our research and what we, and now others saw and recommended. Obviously, it is difficult to know the actual slant due to the limited screen time and unclear screen caps as to be 100% correct, but we are both happy with the end result and we hope you are too. Interestingly, Straker made a good point and said perhaps, if Troughton did have the prop around the wrong way in the 1st scene,, then the handle may have been more ambiguous in shape i.e. a little straighter and not so obvious to it being a handle shape. It is a very good point as I said and indeed would make a lot of sense.
Oops, where's the attachment gone?!? |
The trouble with this particular Sonic Screwdriver as what is being seen on screen is being interpreted by different people. Hopefully with this version, we are ticking as many boxes as possible by incorporating what is seen in all of the angles of the various scenes that it is seen in... and of course if you don't like any of the designs that have been created by James, myself or others, you can always have it just as a penlight as seen in the final shot where the gun attachment isn't even included! (ah, but which style of penlight as that hasn't, as yet, been correctly identified... Oh don't get me waffling on that again. See the previous post) So, wrong way around, obscured, no attachment... Ha, this Sonic variation has certainly not made it easy for us to work out at all.
With things like this it is valuable to get as many of peoples feedback and ideas, this is how collectively we can build up a better picture on the design of these old props. No ideas should be dismissed out of hand because nuggets of information will always appear and so we have to be flexible enough to except them. After all, that how a picture was built up on the last two Sonics for Troughton's Doctor. Too many times we, as collectors and prop-makers, have been sent down a blind alley in research, hearsay and even our own assumptions. It helps when we can examine & then accept new information. Just look at the incorrect information we ran with on The War Games Sonics blue cap for a while, until that was turned on its head and widely accepted with evidence to back up the correct change. I for one like to keep digging and looking, in order to obtain as much evidence as possible and am happy to be proven wrong if new, or rediscovered, information turns up. Sadly this approach seems to be lacking in some quarters, especially over the number of Sonic Screwdriver props or should I say prop used by 3rd-5th Doctors.
And here endeth the update, its a shorter post than normal, but I thought it was important to get it out as soon as possible with our updated design change. As I said last time re The Dominators Sonic, until further information is found no design is right or wrong. People will have their own preferences re versions of this prop, both now and in the future, when other designs hopefully come along with new back up research.To end, I thought I would add an extra section below for all the fans of prop making and design. James and I were emailing and instagramming (is that a word, perhaps it is now and I claim it!) back and forth from OZ to the UK with the size and design tweaks so here is a selection of photos so you can see the step by step adjustments he made to our version of the prop. Ive also included a paper version in my hand and a child's hand so you can see the size (in real life the prop is just a small bit longer than the Fury Sonic Screwdriver). James no doubt, will be adding more on his Instagram account and elsewhere. We hope you enjoy them!
So that's it for this time. As always, please do feel free to comment on this or any other post it would be great to hear your thoughts on and suggestions on this or any of my other posts, as I sometimes wonder if there is anyone is out there... is there.., are you out there in blog-space, or is it just me and James?
Thanks once again for reading. Until next time...
Photos and video stills used on this site are © BBC Worldwide Ltd. The Doctor Who brand is a trademark of the BBC. No infringement is intended or implied. Design of this Dominators Sonic (c) Lee Moone & James Kieboom.
Friday, October 2, 2020
The Dominators Sonic Screwdriver
The Doctor, Jamie & Zoe in The Dominators. |
Now this is an ongoing bit of research of mine, that quite frankly has been proving to be very tricky. Not only have you got find the right penlight, but you've also got to try and work out what shape the gun holder is. However, I thought I'd share what my thoughts are on this prop and showcase a design that I have been collaborating on. But before I get ahead of myself, let's break the prop down, starting with....
The Penlight.
The identity of this penlight is still a mystery. People have been squinting at very small and blurred images of what type of penlight this could be. Over the last few years the look has been sort of fixed via mixing a modern penlight with a tear drop clip from a fountain pen and various black caps. The hybrid designs are good looking enough, but are they correct?
So far my research (and I have been on this since 2013) I have not found one single 1960's penlight that matches that look. The stumbling block seems to be the clip. It's catching people out... myself included. I have to confess at one point recently I did wonder whether this Sonic Screwdriver prop was made not from a penlight, but from an actual fountain pen, and all because of that damn clip!! In the end I decided to throw that idea out and start again. So, the best thing to do was to examine the pictures and footage with fresh eyes. Looking at this again I can see it isn't a tear drop style clip at all. Like with the erroneous blue cap on The War Games Sonic, people are seeing what they want to see, or have been told to see. So, with my fresh eyes what I see is a kinked or rippled clip, similar to a kirby or hair grip, but with less ridges...or something similar.
An example on the left to the type of clip that is on the prop flashlight |
In the black and white photo above, the angle is suggesting a solid tear drop end on the clip, but it could also be a flat upturned end as in the colour photo.. At the top end near the black cap where the studio light catches the metal, there seems to be another ridge. However, this is not as peaked as the one on my penlight, but its certainly higher than the end of the clip.There are variations on this design of clip on quite a number of penlights, as it was a popular way to activated the light by simply pressing the clip down onto the barrel for a connection. Now, if we go with the possibility of this style of design, it opens the search up to what other type of penlight was around in the 1960's. It certainly gives us a better choice of contenders. But how now to narrow it down further? On closer examination I can see that there is a line midway under the clip, perhaps for the section that screws off to change the batteries, perhaps a different colour or metal? But there is faint a line there and not near the end of the clip more in the middle. So another pointer to look out for in the quest for the correct penlight.
Now let's look at the bulb end to see if we can pick up more clues. First thing we can see is, unlike the Eveready penlight used in The War Games, the bulb does not protrude from the metal cylinder. Sticking with the metal cylinder, we can see that it looks straight, it does not taper like the Eveready and as for the thickness of the metal, well... it is rather thick. Like this...
So all good pointers to kick off a new search for us all out there. If there is someone clever enough to blow up the image of Pats hands to roughly life size, we would be able to get a better idea of the dimensions of the penlight used. This is the penlight I have that ticks some of the boxes as mentioned above. It also shows off the kink of the clip in detail.
A 1960s Medical pocket penlight manufactured by Keeler |
Now, there is no way that I'm saying that this IS the penlight used in The Dominators, I am just opening up the search to show that this type of clip with its kink is a possible contender to the tear drop one currently used from a pen. Its difficult to make out for certain as the image we have all been basing it on is blurred and of course the studio lighting bouncing off the prop it is obscuring what is there and what we actually see. Its a problem very similar to the one of identifying The War Games Sonic clicker a few years back. I also found that taking photos at different angles can alter the look of the penlight clip too, even on the flashlight that I have. I have included examples of this in the photos below. By twisting the angles the clips kink becomes less pronounced and then almost straight. This is exaggerated more so when these photos are viewed in black and white.
As I said earlier, the search for what was actually used is tricky, especially when the angles and studio lighting distorts what was there and fools us into thinking we are seeing something else. This is the same when looking at the gun attachment for this version of the Sonic Screwdriver, which brings me nearly on to...
The Gun Attachment.
First up, let's look at what happens on screen and compare it to the replica that has been made. At the start, we can see The Doctor produces the Sonic Screwdriver and attachment from his pocket and then assembles them... and that's the key. So here's the test that you can do before reading further. Grab your own prop replica if you have one, and assemble it. So, how did you attach your penlight to the replica gun section? Chances are you just pressed and clipped it on from the top. Now look closely at the screen and see what Troughton does. (also see photo below)
Now secondly let's look at the overall design. As I said it's a great design, but it's not really 1960's is it? But why is that? Because, 1) I don't think that that era has been taken into account when it was designed and 2) It's been solely based on one scene and the screen grab below and that didn't create the whole picture in that design. Let me explain...
It is almost like a triangle, certainly not at all the same shape as in the earlier scene. This is where I think we can pick up the biggest clues of the overall shape of the attachment and it is that shape that has been niggling away at me for years. It's so familiar, but I just cant quite place it. Way back in 2013 I said the same on the Replica Prop Forum. It reminded me of a toy gun that was around when I was a kid back in the 1960's.
https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/second-doctors-sonic-screwdriver.89127/page-10
As for which toy gun, that is anyone's guess. Toy guns were 10 a penny back then and could be picked up at any high street shop. Pop guns, dart guns, potato guns, water guns. It was guntastic when I was a Kid. There were so many cheap guns around to choose from. Some were official TV tie ins, some not; Batman, Man From Uncle, Captain Scarlet A Woolworths knock-off... Whatever was used in The Dominators episode does ring a bell with me, but alas, it is now lost in the mists of time and in the back of my memory! Now if it was an off the shelf toy adapted for this prop, that would make a lot of sense as it would be cheap and easy to use just like the Eveready penlight was used for The War Games Sonic. I would venture to say that this was a bought item, adapted and not designed from scratch. In-fact when I was recently in communication with Micheal Bryant re the original prop intended to be used in Fury from The Deep, he said that they " always grabbed something to hand". This was common place in Doctor Who during the 60's. Not all props were scratched built. It was very different to designing props for the show today. So if this was a toy gun used (and that is only my speculation), what about the actual gun design? Again, we have been slightly squed on this because of the perceived fan design. People are ready to accept it because no one has come up with an alternative, it's become 'the official' design. And that why I am suggesting an alternative design by including the triangle shape we see in the publicity photo and screen grab.
A small selection of 1960's toy guns. Interesting the one bottom right is a flashlight gun. |
There is a definite 60's look to these designs, of cours, because it reflects the era in which they were made, especially if looking at 'Space Guns'. Interestingly, the triangle shape near the trigger in that Dominators scene can also be seen repeated, to various degree's, in a lot of the guns. Bingo! They backed up my hunch of this being a gun that I had seen when I was a kid way back in the 60's and also what James was seeing
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But what about what can be seen in an earlier scene of The Dominators, ie the shape that the fan design is based on? Is that a that is a completely different prop? Well, to be honest, it would be strange if it was. I know continuity wasn't great back then but to change from one prop to another in a matter of moments would be very odd thing to do. But there's no denying it, it is different shape to the triangle. A puzzle... at 1st yes, but on further examination of the fan replica, the shape is more in-line with a gun handle. An example can be seen in the yellow gun handle below.
Note the curve, it is almost identical to what has been replicated in the fan build. So where and how does this tie in? Well, I believe, like Sylvester McCoy in the TV Movie, Troughton first held the prop the wrong way around. This means that what we are seeing in an earlier scene is actually the back end of the prop used ie the handle. If I am right, and this is only my theory, then it is this that has been reproduced erroneously in the replica as the front of the gun attachment. As for the shape that was then used for the back in this fan build replica, that may be a bit of artistic licence, or it could have been designed by mistaking the shadow created from Troughton's palm as he holds the prop. I believe that the correct front of the prop used on TV is the triangle shape, as seen in the later scene. It is very plainly there to see and shouldn't be overlooked when designing a replica.
Still with me? If not have no fear... Look at the screen grab images below. In these examples, highlighted in blue, it will give you a clearer picture to what I mean and also show you what James and I used as as we started to work on an alternative design for the gun attachment. We have also included the section where it looks like there is no attachment. This is from the scene where the Sonic Screwdriver cuts a hole into the wall. Interestingly, I think that this was added earlier or at a later date in filming not only due to the lack of gun attachment but also because of the hand. I am suggesting that it is NOT Troughton's hand. Note the absence of a bitten thumb nail!
Our version of The Dominators Sonic Screwdriver gun attachment. |
So, those are my thoughts and research thus far on alternative penlights that could have been used for The Dominators Sonic Screwdriver, along with the design that James and I have for the gun attachment. It is fair to say without James's involvement a prototype would not have been made as this section of the blog would have just been a selection of clumsy screen-grabs (and not very good ones minus highlighted sections) to try and illustrate my theory. many thanks goes to James for all his hard work and skill.
Our various stages of design for The Dominator's Sonic Screwdriver gun attachment. |
I have to say on a personal note, that working with James on this it has been a rewarding collaborative experience, keeping each other in check, not deviating of what can be seen and sticking with the practicalities. It was all fairly pacey work, not hampered by the differing time zones of the UK & OZ. I'm sure as time goes on James and I will tweak small sections of our version of the prop here and there. However, until something obvious jumps up at us, this is the design that we are staying with, as it ties together all the known images. You cant really not include what is seen in both scenes.
Now remember, no design is right or wrong... until that is, more evidence comes to light of the actual prop used. Some of you will prefer one design over the other and that's fine, we are not out to destroy the previous design, or trample on designs that may come after. We hope this blog post explains clearly why both of us came to this particular design and the choices we made. Hopefully it will also gives the Sonic Screwdriver collectors out there a bit of a choice too.
Any questions, comments or points you have on this please do let me know as I'm more than happy to chat about them, either here or on my Instagram account @the_zeroroom
If you like this design and would like one to add to your collection, then please contact James via his Instagram account for further details @the_sonicscrewdriver_collector
Once again, many thanks for reading!
Photo and Video stills used on this site are (c) BBC Worldwide Ltd. The Doctor Who brand is a trademark of The BBC. No infringement is intended or implied. Dominators Sonic design (c) Lee Moone & James Kieboom.